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Tooey



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 4:34 am    Post subject: Vote 2008 Reply with quote

Anything goes? seems so these days.

One could say there is no political agenda to this coin, just a marketing one. I have a few questions 1)Is this appropriate for geocaching? 2) Do you think Groundspeak should have approved this design? and lastly - the question was raised regarding the use of copyrighted logos, which hasn't been answered - 3) does anybody really care?
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geo.error



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 4:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those coins are not interesting to me, i give them a quick look.

but i understand when American cachers would buy them.

This is very important for them amd i think they are more fanatic as us with politic as us european.


I would not buy such coin but when i find it in a cache i will move it to a other cache just like i do with other coins.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think politics is an ugly theme to use for a coin. geocoins are supposed to be fun and enjoyable, politics is not fun or enjable, it is an agenda that has no place in a worldwide hobby.
most of these agendas being shoved in our faces are an interest that only a small percentage of the world actively plays a part in, so this in a way is excluding the majority.
politics and religion, and any other agenda that serves no helpful purpose to most people, should not be allowed.
i thought that was the rules, but then i suppose theres is someone willing to ignore the rules when it means money in the bank for them. im saying no names. i mean why would a geocoin with a tracking number be allowed to be advertised, but another coin or geocaching related item, being sold to raise money for charity be deleted from view and the poster be banned for a while.

yes you got it,
money talks.

i think geocoin makers should keep to enjoyable and interesting themes.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not a lot of interest in this coin as well . The copy rite question is interesting and unanswered. I'm sure the people at Oak coins are nice But Politics in any country is always a issue where if you stand up to say look at me You are doing so in a place where either side could take shoots at you. Did these coins need to be Made No Will they sell a few Sure If it was just vote for Geocaching coin only then i dont think there is a issue . They want to sell to coins to make some coin . Live with the decision just like every one will have to on the day after the election.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Tooey



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

L/GBOTS wrote:
The copyright question has been answered in the GC forums Very Happy


It doesn't look like much of an answer to me, about as convincing as saying we definitely looked in the right place for the cache but we didn't see it, so we are logging it anyway Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did not like those coins. Donīt think there should be that obvious politics in the coinworld.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I see they are going the pre-order route with this one, since they are not meant to use the logo anyway, maybe they will rethink producing this coin.
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ElliPirelli



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm totally baffeled, why those designs went through with Groundspeak!

Advertising is not permitted in Cachelistings, not even when one just states that there's nice food available nearby.
How come, that advertising for the candidates is permitted?

Now, if one like to make a coin religion themed, war themed or anything I don't really have a problem with.
Even the vote geocaching has a kind of nice ring to it and would be totally appropiate in my eyes. But the names of the candidates on them? No way.

The strange voting system in the US is baffling enough for one who doesn't live there. And the astonishingly amount of money spend on advertising could be put to better use in my opinion as well...
To drag this topic into the fun environment of coins is just bad taste.


I won't buy them, but I'm not going as far as cutting oak coins per se, there are to many nice coins produced by them! It's more that I'm disappointed in Groundspeak for appoving such designs.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm totally baffeled, why those designs went through with Groundspeak!

Advertising is not permitted in Cachelistings, not even when one just states that there's nice food available nearby.
How come, that advertising for the candidates is permitted?


because these coins will be trackable...and who do you think own these trackable numbers in the first place??
yes you got it, groundspeak.
the rules of no advertisments seems to only be followed when groundspeak cant dip their fingers into the pie.
so that means any charities adverts get the boot while something obnoxious like trackable political geocoins is allowed to stay.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

paganfrog wrote:
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I'm totally baffeled, why those designs went through with Groundspeak!

Advertising is not permitted in Cachelistings, not even when one just states that there's nice food available nearby.
How come, that advertising for the candidates is permitted?


because these coins will be trackable...and who do you think own these trackable numbers in the first place??
yes you got it, groundspeak.
the rules of no advertisments seems to only be followed when groundspeak cant dip their fingers into the pie.
so that means any charities adverts get the boot while something obnoxious like trackable political geocoins is allowed to stay.

Oh I'm sorry, how stupid of me not see that! Embarassed

Advertising is only permittable when they make any cut on it! Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How come the thread over in the Big Blue is closed?
Oak coins didn't like the way people kept asking about trademarks? Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would someone please point me in the right direction? I would like to take a look at what you are talking about.

Thanks
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jellyfish wrote:
Would someone please point me in the right direction? I would like to take a look at what you are talking about.

Thanks


This thread http://forums.groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=206098
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geo.error



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

geocachingdragon wrote:
Not a lot of interest in this coin as well . The copy rite question is interesting and unanswered. I'm sure the people at Oak coins are nice But Politics in any country is always a issue where if you stand up to say look at me You are doing so in a place where either side could take shoots at you. Did these coins need to be Made No Will they sell a few Sure If it was just vote for Geocaching coin only then i dont think there is a issue . They want to sell to coins to make some coin . Live with the decision just like every one will have to on the day after the election.




Sorry this is off-topic but i can not keep my eyes of your avatar.


wow....so cool
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geocachingdragon



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks i will answer back in avatar topic.
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