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[RedShoesGirl]

because i challenged eartha she closed the cache angel thread, while at the same time posting a note that says coins can be talked about. how ridiculous.

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[RedShoesGirl]

and now she has totally removed this post:

eartha closed the cache angel thread because i dare question her about slapping my hand because i posted about the new coin. no link was given. it was not commercial. she did not close the thread until i said if there was a problem, that was not her call to make, but coins and pins.

and then quoted the person:

>>You may visit my web site at www.CoinsAndPins.com, but I will not solicit coin business on the forums in order to respect the Groundspeak rules and just plain general ethics. Also as a geocacher, I want the forums to remain a place to discuss caching and not become a commercial forum. Commercialism would take all the fun out of it. However, I will occasionally answer general questions about the manufacturing process.<<

i thought discussing coins was the whole idea of the geocoin forum? i was not soliciting business but talking about a gorgeous coin.

how is this different from the other coins being offered by coins and pins, the camulodunum coins on the same page which also has its own thread in the geocoin forum.

http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=207397

there comes a time when censorship on this forum is ridiculous. she disagrees with me so closes a viable thread? this kind of action just makes you guys look bad!

if she wishes to "slap my hand" then she should do it in private. a little gracious note goes a lot farther than a challenge.

ok, time to close this thread too. but i am sending it on to the powers that be. used to be one could just write jeremy. those days are LONG gone!

rsg
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[map monkey]

....just maybe you were wrong and out of place with your comments.

From what i see, Eartha did what a moderator needs to do...and you challenged her publically. You could have sent her a PM with your response, like you advocate, or let the moderator suggestion go through to the keeper.

telling it like i see it....

mm

[RedShoesGirl]

[map monkey]

I did look at it again from your position, and i still say that your actions were inappropriate.

I don't want to start any arguments , i just believe that there is an issue between you and Eartha which needs to be resolved. I wouldn't have handled it that way.

mm

[map monkey]

I see your second thread is back up and locked. (i saw the original on emailed thread watch btw)

mm

[RedShoesGirl]

[ElliPirelli]

While I don't understand the closing of the angel coin thread, I do understand the closing of your challenge.
You actually ask her to close it, and good mod she is, she did it at OP request...


Coins and Pins have several new coins for presale, a few of those got advertised in the forum. But (and that's a big but!) they were addvertised not by C&P but by the initiator/creator of those coins. Not the shop, but those, whose personals these are...
(Do I make sense at all? )


Anyway, the rule, that only the owner of a coin can addvertise their coin in a thread, is ridiculous. Most threads in the coin forum are about new coins, how would one hear about new, exciting coins?

Well, this is just my opinion, and these shenanigans just prove to me, that I'm right not to be that active in the Big Blue...


Just my 2 cents...


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[geocachingdragon]

The Angel thread should not have been closed. It was opened because you liked the coin and wanted to talk about it. It must have been a coin designed by coins and pins and because of that they would not open there own thread because of the above stated reasons. But I am also sure they were not unhappy that it was being discussed because it could have led to new sales. So it should have stayed open. As for the second thread did you really think it wouldnt get closed. That is the main reason coinmatters is here.

[Tooey]

Well in a perfect world I think there should be a time limit on how long a moderator can serve on a forum, in all 'interest' groups that I know of where there is an elected committee, elected officers have to stand down after a certain period of time. This prevents over familiarisation and favouritism (substitute z's for s's as you prefer )

I am sure they have a wealth of experience and I am not suggesting it is lost, but there could at least be some rotation through the forums, that would at least be a start.

[ElliPirelli]

Well, can anyone tell me what's going on over in the big blue?


First this thread appears: Read here
Get's closed.


And now this as a respond: Here
Closed at OPs request. Why do they actually ask for it?


What in heavens name is going on?
I never go into the other forums at the Big Blue, as I go for ordinary Caching related thing to the German Geoclub, the Green Forum...

Had she put it into a cointest, it would have been okay?


Can't understand it at all.
Aren't I glad, I subscribed to get an email, when a new thread is opened....
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[Tooey]

I was tempted to open a cointest, entitled COINTEST:- tell me what your favourite TV program is

Rules are rules I guess, glad we don't have them here !

[RedShoesGirl]

[geocachingdragon]

So RSG Did you get a Holiday from the GC forum??

[RedShoesGirl]

[DaFunkyFrogs]

I think it's more than a little odd for Lara to get shot down for 'announcing' someone else's coin when others are allowed to do the same thing. Nashuan 'announced' the '08 Dragonflies and that thread is still open with no moderator comments about whether it was appropriate or not. That thread has gone on for 2 pages.


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[Tooey]

That's what gets my goat more than anything - a complete lack of consistency.

So how long is your holiday?

[paganfrog]

strange that some posts/members are jumped on and closed almost instantly, while other threads are left alone all night to go wildly off topic from the original post, even when the origianl poster asks the thread to be closed, but it takes all night for that request to happen.

shame rsg seems to have a target on her back and someone is out to get her no matter what.

we love ya here rsg.

[Mousekakat]

Lara,

You KNOW I like you, without a doubt...

BUT... I think that this time you kind of pushed things. I don't think Eartha was being rude, I think she was pointing something out, and you seemed to be loaded for bear on that thread, and opening the second thread was just more baiting.

I'm not alone in thinking this, it's been brought up to me by other people, too.

Don't get me wrong, I've had MORE than my share of problems with the mods, including one mod bringing in his buddy mods against me, banning me, and threatening to ban me further, and I know how it feels and how infuriating it can be, but this time I truly think that you pushed. I think that Eartha was making a comment on how things were usually done and that your response was loaded and looking for trouble, and when you got the trouble, then you felt that you were justified in your anger, when really, Eartha didn't do anything to start with that was wrong or rude, aside from stating how things are done. I've received the EXACT same message from her when I also started a thread on someone else's coin.

I hope this doesn't make you angry at me, too, but I really do think that this time you brought this on yourself. It has nothing to do with a target or some moderator out to get you (although I avoid FSM like he's got the plague and think he's rather a d*ckhead, myself!)

Eartha isn't so bad, try sending her a message and not putting her on the defense and speaking to her, you'll likely get a lot better response. I know that once I took the chip off of my shoulder against her and did just that we communicated well and I understood things a bit better...and she understood me better, too. We've come to a bit of respect for each other, I think, and that's a good thing!

Just don't ask me to speak to FSM.... *me hates pasta!!!*

Hang in there, I've been in your position before!!!

Naomi

[geo.error]

This forum is started because difficulty on other forum, it was a busy forum.

Till the last weeks everybody was back at geocaching forum.


Why did you not post the coins in this forum., when the moderator slept at your fingers.



This forum need some new news, nothing happend here.

You can show here your beautiful photos, your beautiful sigs and the coins you like.


here are no rules only respect.

That is why i am proud at this forum.

Everybody knows that geocaching forum has rules and moderators.

De moderators get angry e-mails from other coiners so they must react.

And it is true they don't make a straight line for every body.

i think that is because there comes angry e-mail to the moderators.

Please remember being a moderator is a hell off a job, where everybody negs at you whole day.

i will never be a moderator in my whole life.

It is a pity that it was you or me...........

But i have learned from my vacation

Just come here in this forum and feel save.


just like you say my 2 cents

[fox-and-the-hound]

RSG, you were right on the money and I'm backing you up over there asking for the proof. I'm already on Eartha and FSM's $#!t list anyway so I might as well ask and I've been doing what you did for years without any issue. Other people have announced for me as well. You opened a thread to talk about a coin you like. End of story. Eartha taking it upon herself to close it (unless she was requested to by the manufacturer) is seriously out of order. Publicly released info about coins is open for discussion in publicly open forums on geocoins. To suggest otherwise is overstepping the bounds of "authority". The job of a Moderator is to moderate, not dictate and most certainly not censor.
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[fox-and-the-hound]

As of this moment, anyone who is concerned with the heavy handed tactics of the goecoin mods should be writing to Groundspeak to lodge an official complaint. Trust me when I say this is not the first time they've been called out on this kind of behavior. Those forums are for the discussion of coins. To shut down discussions without just cause is in direct opposition to the good of the community.

The contact point is Reviewers@Geocaching.com and in previous circumstances exactly like these I was advised by other mods to use this address to lodge the complaint.
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[RedShoesGirl]

[fox-and-the-hound]

Well of course I didn't think it would take long for FSM to show up waving his noodly appendages and it didn't. Unfortunately, his ranting at me the last time I challenged Eartha's opinions provided the ammo against his current words. Sorry, big guy, you can't have it both ways. Either you do or do not have authority over us and exercise it based on your opinions. Double-standards are apparently still the style-du-jour over there.
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